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~ Prologue ~
"CDI Medical Supporters Series" began with the thought of becoming an opportunity to feel even a little even for everyone with CDI Medical's "corporate climate and values".
The 3rd guest is Seiichi Amino lawyer from our company's CDI Medical Consulting Lawyer.
Mr. Amino and Uga are childbirth teenagers since my school days, and I am also a senior associate with a similar sense of mind at the same age. These two people discussed the theme of business revitalization and professional development / growth this time. There is a common item in terms of being able to make people think about the extreme conditions such as "regeneration" which is not usually experienced and the development and growth of professionals. From that point on, I think that this series will be helpful not only for companies but also for medical institutions. Please enjoy.
【Seiichi Amino Profile】
2000 graduated from agricultural department of Tokyo University.
2002 Institute of Justice (56th term), 2003 lawyer registration (Daiichi Bar Association), Abe, Ikubo & Katayama.
We deal with bankruptcy / corporate revitalization, intellectual property rights (patent law, copyright law, unfair competition prevention law, trademark law), general corporate legal matters, and especially handling dispute cases including litigation in particular. Regarding the field of bankruptcy / corporate revitalization, we are currently enrolling at the Tokyo Metropolitan Small Business Recycling Support Council Expert Adviser and are actively working on business revitalization of small and medium enterprises. Regarding the field of intellectual property rights, we are also working on litigation cases, including advice on contracts relating to publishing, film making etc., especially in the field of copyright.
【Shinichiro Uga Profile】
Graduated from M.B.A, Aoyama Gakuin University and Kansai Gaidai University in the faculty of foreign language.
After working for Boston Scientific Japan Co., Ltd., and Johnson & Johnson Co., Ltd., joined CDI Medical in 2006. Currently, CDI Medical Chief Operating Officer COO.
He has consistently been working for the healthcare industry throughout his career. Since he joined CDI Medical, he has engaging in a wide range of consulting services in medical fields, nursing care, and healthcare industry. He has made high achievements of management improvement as well as industry-academia collaboration for various types of medical institutions. Based on his strong network with medical institutions, he actively connects medical institutions with companies in various industries, including new entry support. He consistently pursuits “hands-on” supports to make real change.
Components
(1) - Reason why you chose a profession called a lawyer -
(2) - Background behind many of bankruptcies and business revitalization -
(3) ~ Characteristics of enterprises going bankrupt and companies falling into business revival ~
(4) ~ Abe, Ikubo & Katayama and Common Points of CDI Medical -
(5) ~ Human resource development by "familyism" ~
~ Why did you choose a profession called a lawyer?
Uga: Why did Mr. Amino think that he would become a lawyer?
Amino: I decided to become a lawyer when I was a high school student.At my high school I attended, I was divided into a literature system and a science class when I was a second grader, but I thought that the occupation which can be of some degree will be decided depending on which one I choose. For example, you can not become a doctor without going to science.When I thought of what kind of work I would like to do in the future, the lawyer was the closest thing I wanted to do.
Originally, I do not want to realize the justice of society as a whole, but there is a feeling that I would like to make it a profession simply because "I want to help others around if they are involved in complicated things". did. If you think about that, when you think about helping someone who is important to you, the occupation that can do it is unexpectedly limited, for example, if you are on health, it is a doctor and politicians that the influence is a little bigger I thought whether it is a profession that needs special ability. In such circumstances, I thought that it is a lawyer that has versatility and still has the ability to solve problems individually.
Uga: When choosing a faculty in a university, you also chose the faculty with emphasis on "being liable to become a lawyer".
Amino: Although lawyers are usually law schools, in my case I decided the faculty with emphasis on "being easy to make time to study" in my case. Also, when becoming a lawyer, I would like to post a slightly different faculty name in my career. (Haha)
That's why I chose the undergraduate faculty of science.
Uga: When you were a student classmate who relied on me for yourself, you mentioned that "it's exhausted as a lawyer.
Amino: Because I was the reason I wanted to be a lawyer, I still think so. However, now I feel worth it when not only acquaintances from olden days but also the management of horses I met through work and those who think that I am good.
Uga: What are the characteristics of those who think Lawyer Amino is "nice"?
Amino: Since I am doing business revitalization projects, I have a lot of opportunities to meet with management in particular, but those who value casual connection with people and employees and business partners are important If you are in, you are comfortable talking. Such people are liked by various people such as employees, as well as business partners and business partners, and it can be seen that there are many acquaintances. I guess it is attractive personally.
Uga: Is there something in such a situation that falls into a serious situation such as bankruptcy or regeneration? Is there anything to do with the characteristics of management and the nature of the project?
Amino: I think that there are various factors in the company going into bankruptcy and business revival phases, so I think that not necessarily relationships between management personnel personality and projects. I am unable to explain completely because I am introducing the case, but unfortunately there are no repeaters in business revitalization and bankruptcy fields in principle. (Haha) Most of it is due to the introduction, but when you meet the manager with the introduction, if you can not trust, you may refuse acceptance, and conversely "help this person somehow Sometimes I think.
Uga: I feel that the law firm and the consulting firm are in common with each other in terms of so-called "credit business" that carries out business with people.
~ Background that handles many bankruptcies and business revitalization ~
Uga: Mr. Amino is dealing with many bankruptcies and business revitalization, but what kind of background is there?
Amino: First of all, our office has business revitalization as one specialty field. No matter how much you say you want to do it you can not gain experience unless there are matters. However, while there are other projects in various fields, I am working on projects of business revitalization, it is great that they were very worthwhile actually trying.
The field of business revitalization is in the morning state in humans. It is not peacetime right? I think that various problems in the company erupted, and furthermore the thinking of management is the most visible. Do you want to leave your own money, want to protect employees, want to protect your business, or do not want to bother your business partners? Among them, the top priority is what depends on management. It is not a simple story that it is good to prioritize which one is the best, but it is the scene that can be seen most.
It is extremely worthwhile as a lawyer to be able to help the client who is the client in such ultimate circumstances. Alongside management, we think about how to eventually play the company or business together. It is fine if it can play well, but if it is useless, you must properly proceed with bankruptcy and give you a funeral. The way of saying may not be appropriate, but even if you are going to die the same, it is completely different from annoying around to cremate with a funeral properly and to death without doing anything.
Another reason why I decided to do business revitalization is because I am interested in things "business" myself. Since lawyers are agents no matter how far they are, I think that there is a longing for those who are doing business as parties. It is business revitalization in lawyer 's work that you can see it.
Uga: Even our company may feel "a microcosm of business." In the past, our applicants said that they are hoping for a venture, so when asking the reasons, "Each company has its own specialty, but every venture has to be able to do everything everything else. It comes out, money talks come out, and everything has to do with it, so a miniature of the management can be seen ".
Whether there is a difference between whether it feels like the customer or the company, I think whether it is the same thing to feel.
Uga: Does the personality of management stand out on the scene of revival?
Amino: I think that it is easy for managers to think about manpower. For example, when you are forced to choose between paying business partners or paying to employees in a situation where there is not enough money to pay all the obligations, say "Pay just for the employees anyway" On the contrary, some executives say that "Employees are prepared for themselves, but we do not want to bother our business partners."
If you say that you are wrong as a manager, because you are not an employee or a business partner, but you prioritize yourself, I think that it can not be said unconditionally. What you give priority to is that way of thinking about that person's business, like a way of life. However, it is certain that it is a scene that sees such things variously.
Uga: As much as it goes down, everything comes up with all kinds of themes, you need an approach that understands your feelings rather than just one street.It is very difficult, is not it?
Amino: That's right. Being a lawyer, it should not be against the law, and what we do is to be supported by the theory of law, but there are many things to think from the conclusion. The negotiating thing is the same, there are many scenes where there is no meaning even if you talk about "it is legally like this", after all understanding the circumstances of the story and how to bring the story, trusting the opponent It is not going to work if you can not build a relationship.
Uga: The qualifications and laws as lawyers are just tools, and at the end it is said that you are competing with individuals "Mr. Amino."
Amino: I do not know whether individuals are able to compete, but the law is just a tool, not just the story that "the law is this, so we must do this".
First of all, there is a thing called "what to do as a value judgment", and there are also places where the law comes later. In particular, there are many cases that negotiate things, conflict things do not go well even if talking about law alone.
Uga: When we do due due diligence, we may see your true heart from the beginning.
In that case, if you make a mistake about how to balance the balance between logic and logic, how to understand the information to convey the logic, it will be a story "I know ...".
Uga: Is it an approach that understands logic and intelligence soon after entering the office?
Amino: Of course, I can not do it unless I gain experience. I think that there are many things that I do not know if I do not do projects of "cut up" as a lawyer to a certain extent. I am speaking greatly, but I am also promoting myself. (Haha)
Since there are many cases where the field of charge is clearly separated because it is a big office, there are lawyers who do not do trials.
There are many lawyers who have never negotiated, I think that there are many lawyers who only do due diligence, do only worry about contracts, and make special products of financial products. That is not a bad thing because it is a specialist in it, but I think that there are many things that you can not acquire if you do not do conflict.
One of the strengths of our office is there. All lawyers are offices that handle very many conflicts, so it's only "lawyers who can fight". (Haha)
Whatever I do, whatever we plan to do, I will think about which scenes to work on, and I think that one is a lawsuit if it is a living company.
Finally, we have to obey the judgment in lawsuits, so it is very important to win or lose in a lawsuit. On the other hand, we must also assume that the company will collapse and die.
Therefore, even if you have experiences of trial or have engaged in the bankruptcy situation of the company, even though you are doing the wording of the contract, I think that we can do more blood. I think that our office has seen it from customers as well. Thankfully, there are quite a few customers who "ask us for conflict ones".
Uga: I think that it would be better to work on projects that can be done quickly when thinking about making the office bigger. Obviously it will take time and effort to become a conflict.Is there no dilemma around that?
Amino: First of all, as a lawyer's work, there are limited projects that can not be done without a large number of people. For example, in a case involving a lot in our office, we need to introduce a lot of people with big due diligence and tight deadlines. When there are many bases such as branch offices and stores due to a large bankruptcy incident, it is necessary to introduce a lawyer to each of the bases, so if the number of people is small, it is slightly harsh.
Regarding other disputes and lawsuits, the necessary personnel is not more than five people even if it is a large project from two people. It is unexpectedly small that it is impossible for a lawyer to work without a large number of people in a single project. In terms of our office, we are collaborating when other offices that we are conscious are in the same building and we need human resources such as a large bankruptcy incident. It is possible to associate with such an office if manpower is needed, I think that we do not think that our office will be bigger in that sense.
At least at the present moment, we also do recruitment activities with a stance of adopting good people, if not adopting them. Is it a feeling that it increases with nature because there are four people to adopt in a year and one year not to adopt one?
There is no such thing as "Let's recruit a lot of people" with the aim of increasing the size of the office. So I think there is not much dilemma between the work and the size of the office.
~ Characteristics of enterprises going bankrupt and companies falling into business revival ~
Uga: I told you that there is no repeater in a company that goes bankrupt, but I think that such companies have something quirky like that.
Also, if the manager who experienced the situation so far can not redo once more, it seems that there is a problem as a society ....
Amino: First of all, as for management of civil rehabilitation proceedings and private arrangement, management may continue, so it does not necessarily get out of management in case of bankruptcy. The manager who experienced the extreme condition often says, "It was a great learning experience." "This study will never be useful, never have anything to do." (Haha)
It is difficult for companies to fall into bankruptcy / rebirth.
There are really various reasons to fall into such a situation, so it seems that there is no general thing like "such a company can be crushed". Of course, there are many external factors among them. Needless to say, management of the company is greatly affected by the economy, so it will naturally increase when things like the collapse of the bubble and the Lehman shock happen, and it may also be a cause of currency due to currency fluctuations and political factors .
Uga: In the current story, the view that "the strategy based on external factors was insufficient" and "the view that managers who could not take account of external factors may have problems I think that it may be possible to also view the view that it is.
Amino: It's difficult, is not it? Certainly, there are many companies that dealt with external factors carefully, and consequently did not collapse. On the other hand, you can also see that it is more difficult for people with doubts about the situation in which real estate continues to rise in the case of a bubble. It is quite difficult. However, if you are looking at the company that survives, I feel that prudent managers are being dealt with in various ways.
Uga: Do you always prepare for unforeseen circumstances, or those with various withdrawals have high viability?
Amino: Of course there are places like that, but sometimes we have failed because we diversified our business, so this can not be said unconditionally. But after all, there are companies that want it if there is one strength in the business, so I think that it is easy to survive. It is likely to become a direction to survive by cutting out the business with that strength. Conversely, I think that companies that do not know exactly what they are doing after all will also find it difficult for buyers to obtain hands.
After that, it is hard to find out the meaning of existence in the business context at all in the business context, and there are things that it is difficult in the times, no matter how hard you try. Since it can be said that it is being caught naturally in the big stream, I think that it is somewhat different from the problem of management's abilities. There are really various cases, so it is hard to say definitely.
~ Abe, Ikubo & Katayama and Common Points of CDI Medical -
Uga: There used to be a story of "a lawyer who can fight", but in fact, our company representative Ajima is often said to be "a fighting consultant". Would it be willing to thrust in the presence of a fight? (Haha) In addition, we also have something to say, "It's a consulting farm with bones" or "You sweat together," sometimes we are told. I wonder if those people want you to be nearby.
Amino: I think that lawyers have a meaning of existence where they manage their troublesome things, so rather than a clean work, rather than dare "pick up chestnuts in the fire" I think that the significance of existence will come out strongly . After that, there are quite a lot of things that can be done because it is a third party.
Uga: There are things that you can say because you are watching various organizations from outside and have no conflict of interest. I think there is something called "because of the position of a third party". Sometimes customers say "I want the staff of CDI Medical's staff", but actually it is hard to get the same added value as doing from outside if you go inside. Customers who think that consultants are good at using themselves have already thought of their own ideas and are planning to reform and improve their own thinking while directing their fingertips to a third party consultant It is a case.
Amino: Like the lawyer, "Because the lawyer said this," or "Because the lawyer says such unreasonable things, I am sorry, but please listen."
I think that you can use it successfully as "by lawyers" and lead to problem solving.
Uga: If you catch those badges or go to a battlefield concerning the life and death of a company, is not it really stressful?
Amino: I do not have a bad meaning, I think that it can be done because it is someone else's job. It means not to take over hands on projects or to think hard, but to objectively and calmly deal with it. I think the doctor is saying "You can not do it with your own surgery", I think that you can calmly because it is not yours. Everyone, you are going to consult with the troubles that dominate the majority of your head and letting your lawyer take down that burden. It is serious if you take that trouble as it is and put it in your head.
I think about the client 's feelings, but I will work as a stranger instead of myself. I think that it must be divided firmly. From a lawyer's teacher who used to be an instructor at the Institute for Law and Research in the past, I had learned the word that "lawyers must snuggle closely with the client, but should not assimilate with the client" I think that's exactly the case.
Uga: If you are assimilating and listening to stories, you will not be able to view an objective view, so it is sometimes you dare to draw a line of daring while standing close. The other thing I thought was similar, "I do not want to enlarge my organization." Rather than simply increasing the number of people, we think that it is better to have individual members rich in personality and excellent members as well.
Amino: It's not that I should not make it big, but I do not think that I want to make it bigger. I think that it is an image that it increases naturally while entering the person "This person is!"
~ Human Resource Development through "Familyism"
Ajima: A frequent question from the president of our customer's hospital, the director of the university hospital is that "the doctor's management is difficult." There are many people who think in independent liberty, but hospitals do not go unless it properly manages it, so there are various troubles including evaluation.
I think there is something similar to a lawyer, but what kind of things are carefully managed?
Amino: Although I am not in the position to manage our office, our office says "familyism". Abe, the founder of our office, said, "Office is a family." That is why we have established the idea that mutual trust is built up and that we can help each other as a family when we are good and bad, and our offices share this way of thinking.
A person who sympathizes with such familyism actually enters our office, and that idea has passed over to everyone.
On the contrary, people who can not accept it do not come in first at all, so our office has quite a few people to quit.
I think that the idea as such an office is clear, and I think that it is not so much as a law firm office that it is in the head of everyone. However, when choosing a new person it is very difficult and there are also years when I meet with truly many people and eventually did not take one person.
Ajima: It takes time to cultivate new graduates. In consulting farms, discussion about whether to focus mainly on new graduates or middle-aged subjects often occurs, but does midway 'immediate fighting' do not look attractive?
Amino: Well, fortunately since I think that the condition that customers are not enough is not enough, I think that there is no particular idea that mid-career lawyers who have customers are attractive.
Ajima: Does not anyone who will quit due to hard work harder?
Amino: It's not hard to say such a thing as to shout, for example, the senior lawyer projected the draft created by a junior lawyer at the projector, "How did you write in this meaning?" "This is not what you should write While checking whether or not ", I will do something like fixing up one word in a word.
Ajima: That is seniors are serious.
Amino: Yes, my senior lawyer is serious. (Haha)
However, because it takes time and labor to raise it firmly, I think that you will acquire the basic power.
Because it takes a lot of time and effort, it is easier to put a correction history in the draft that you sent, but I think that it is the culture of our office to dare to create opportunities to dare to do it.
Ajima: Even at home, saying "I will put in a red", I was doing it many times while being made red, but it takes time and effort if it is in the opposite position, even if I put red to the young staff When being told "Is not it the same?", It is becoming "idiot". (Haha)
Amino: That's right. (Haha) You understand it will be done.
In the past I was repeated over and over again at 1 o'clock in the evening or 2 o'clock while being repelled back many times over time that I had created over time, and I think at the time that "is also a grudge against myself" but. (Haha)
But when it comes to now it is a word of "thankful". For a senior lawyer it is much quicker to fix it by myself. It is not really anything but an educational point of view that it will repetitively do it again.
There may be a scale or circumstance that makes it impossible, but I want to do so at the same time, at the very least.
Uga: Sometimes I think about "circle-like organization" and "club-based organization", but, for example, when red is put in or angered, it is very painful then, Thinking back later, "It was there that you grew up." I think that such feeling is really a club activity.
On the other hand, in a circle-like organization, everyone seems to be laughing "It would be nice to have fun". Although it may be fun on the spot, I wonder how far there are royalties and whether it has the power in the true sense.
I am rather club student. I also know that Mr. Amino is so (Haha)
Amino: Our office puts familyism in the forefront, but at the same time, we are constantly saying that "Familiarism is not familiar".When someone is in trouble, I will help each other and share the cooperation of the projects and know-how, but that is different from a relaxing relationship.
Ajima: Is family oriented messages for staff members?
Amino: I think that it was primarily intended for members of our office. To the inside, we are a family.
Ajima: I see. Although it is also posted on the homepage, the customer sees the homepage, is not it?
I wonder how customers react when seeing familyism.
Amino: Because familyism is a way of thinking that one office is through, I think that it is important to look at it. Of course, I do not say "customers are family". (Haha)
Ajima: That is not it. (Haha)
When you see it, do you understand it and ask you for a job?
Amino: Some people say it is good, and others sometimes say, "I'm writing something strange."
Ajima: What kind of person do you think is good for you?
Amino: How are you?
Although it may not be a part directly related to the customer in the part of work, at least, if the customer is in the position of himself, from the office that each lawyer is doing it without permission, the lawyers of the office I would like to ask the office that it is tightly connected with trust. Looking at it, I think that there is something that you can request to think that it is good.
Uga: It is our dilemma that I want to tell somehow about that part.
Ajima: We feel that there are places where we feel the way of thinking of such organizations if we are long loved by our customers.
(End)